tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post113713664942356440..comments2023-06-21T09:43:02.721-04:00Comments on Out of respect...: An Exercise In Critical Thought...DUBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04395913387532403508noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137769744158983742006-01-20T10:09:00.000-05:002006-01-20T10:09:00.000-05:00Hey DUB. I made a song you might want to link to ...Hey DUB. I made a song you might want to link to from your profile. It was made just after Kanye's comments:<BR/>http://hiphopbs.blogspot.com/2005/09/he-doesnt-care.html<BR/>All the best,<BR/>MattShinsyottahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057586779392291557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137305157997747602006-01-15T01:05:00.000-05:002006-01-15T01:05:00.000-05:00BF, I will make an effort to look over the materia...BF, I will make an effort to look over the material you've directed me toward and post my responses.<BR/><BR/>I say make an "effort" not because I question my ability, but becasue I, like many others, have a busy schedule.<BR/><BR/>I must note that I do not intend this to be a continuing debate with you - for the aforementioned time restraints, and for an honest lack of interest. I will be doing so just to further emphasize my points, as this post - as was clearly noted - was just a very basic introduction to concepts that many living in a xian dominated society hinged on supposed sacredness do not readily have exposure to.<BR/><BR/>This is especially true of the intended audience, as African Americans don't exactly have the luxury of leisurely approaching these rather trivial subjects when dealing with real life issues of living in an institutionaly opressive society. This is overwhelmingly apparent when looking at the "defense" of biblical slavery you linked to, which is apalling in its mysanthropy and obviously written from a privileged perspective.DUBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04395913387532403508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137304260250615152006-01-15T00:51:00.000-05:002006-01-15T00:51:00.000-05:00Ever heard the joke, eschew effuse obfuscation?Ver...Ever heard the joke, eschew effuse obfuscation?<BR/><BR/>Verbosity and grandiloquence may prove an effective tool of persuasion when dealing with laymen, and it is quite condusive to circumloqution, but I assure you it will get you nowhere here. It really just comes off as an ostentatious facade to mask one's shortcomings. I'm familiar with your postings. I don't have a doubt taht you are indeed an intellectual. But I also think your faith conflicts with an appropriate approach to the subject matter.<BR/><BR/>Some things in life are black and white (no pun intended).<BR/><BR/>Of course "my" arguments are not original. Since before xianity, skeptics have been debating the "truths" of beliefs. Xianity in partiular is so full of holes that the arguments against it hardly approach difficult in their conception.<BR/><BR/>Who are you to call for a "balanced study of the subjects...mentioned"? If I'm not mistaken you're a pre-suppositionalist! How even-sided is your collection of reference and study materials?<BR/><BR/>How very appropriate of you to put "evidences" in quotations when referring to theists.<BR/><BR/>You want overwhelming evidence that the world is round? Or that the universe is not geocentric? Or that god doesn't open windows in the "firmament" to allow for rain? Or that bats are not birds? Or that rabbits don't chew cud? Or that pi is not merely 3? Or that germ theory explains illness better than demon possession? Maybe that night and day, light and dark existing prior to the creation of the sun and stars isn't quite feasible? Or maybe that the moon is not a light generating body and stars can not fall to the earth and be crushed underfoot or put in one's pocket? What exactly are you looking for here?<BR/><BR/>If you bring up interpretation, then I scoff at a god who can't get his own shit straight and straightforward. If you claim he complicated it to test faith, then I question why Abraham, Noah, Moses, the Israelites in Exodus, the Apostles, Paul, etc. needed visual proof, nor can I grasp a true need for "testing" faith in a predeterministic existence - why test an outcome that is already planned?<BR/><BR/>I would also refer you to OTHER Jewish literature beside the Tanakh. The Jews are, afterall, the people who penned the OT, and in their other, contemporary works they expound on many of the concepts put forth in the Tanakh. These works also provide a larger, more detailed and accurate picture of how they thought about these subjects (e.g. life beginning at first breath, cosmology, etc.). Xians seem to not appeal to these works when looking for clarification, and I understand that this may be due to these works not being canonized, but in all fairness and reality, they were obviously sufficient for the authorities at the relevant time.DUBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04395913387532403508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137270672829271082006-01-14T15:31:00.000-05:002006-01-14T15:31:00.000-05:00Do you think your objections are original and that...Do you think your objections are original and that no one can answer them? Please, it’s obvious that you have not done a balanced study of the subjects you mentioned. <BR/><BR/><I>"But somebody can tell you that an invisible, all powerful being lives in the sky, wrote a book thousands of years ago, and wants you to follow his every word...and you require not a shread of evidence?" </I><BR/><BR/>Are you're being serious here—or just acrimonious and obstinate? There are plenty of “evidences” theists use (rational ones at that) to argue for Gods existence. You can disagree with them, and point out flaws if you can, but it’s not as if theists are pulling out ideas from their underpants. ;-) <BR/><BR/><I>"For hundreds of years, science has been providing overwhelming evidence showing the Bible to be incorrect, yet Christians refuse to even investigate its claims." </I><BR/><BR/>Really, overwhelming evidence such as? Wait…before you post one, be sure its one that has not been “investigated” (or at least attempted by your standards) by a Christian. We would not want you to contradict your self. <BR/><BR/><I>"If you are a Christian, your god did all of this [insert evil here]. Even more, according to your Bible, God planned all of this. Every man, woman, and child's death. Every lost home. Every suffering human tragedy is part of god's plan. Dubya was nothing but an instrument of god - George was just doing God's work." </I><BR/><BR/>And you know this how? <A HREF="http://www.leaderu.com/focus/goodevil.html" REL="nofollow"> Here</A>is a quick resource (with links) on evil. Also, here is something to clear your confusion on <A HREF="http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qnoslave.html" REL="nofollow"> Slavery</A>, Abortion, <A HREF="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/1964" REL="nofollow"> here</A>, <A HREF="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/1976" REL="nofollow">here</A>, and specifically for your quote on Exodus 21:22-23 <A HREF="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2598" REL="nofollow"> here </A>, Oh--and about Women <A HREF="http://www.christian-thinktank.com/femalex.html" REL="nofollow"> here </A>. <BR/><BR/>Have a great day!SteveiT1Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271837187081908611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137212645928183912006-01-13T23:24:00.000-05:002006-01-13T23:24:00.000-05:00Franky, are you sure this isn't a trick question? ...Franky, are you sure this isn't a trick question? LOL<BR/><BR/>Black Planet is a site somewhat like MySpace/Hi5/Friendster...but for black folk/interests. When it started up ('99-'00?) it had potential, but instead of having any positive influence or focus on issues it quickly went the way of every other internet site and became a giant festival of debauchery for the 16-21 crowd. It's one big cyber night club. There is a Latino/a version called Mi Gente, and one for Asians too (forget what the name is). There's one for white folk, and it's called the rest of the internet.DUBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04395913387532403508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15737868.post-1137161008342930382006-01-13T09:03:00.000-05:002006-01-13T09:03:00.000-05:00wow, hard hitting stuff. What's black planet by t...wow, hard hitting stuff. What's black planet by the way?Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08582589283163501277noreply@blogger.com